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mysticfushia, da_widget, and a couple of other friends. We were probably the oldest non-parents in the theatre, which was awkward for like .5 seconds.
It'll probably come as no surprise, but I loved this ridiculous movie. Yeah, the plot was nothing like the book and there was some other issues with it, but overall? It captured the feeling and the spirit of the books and characters, and I think at the end of the day that's what matters more than the fact that they changed the quest around, added/removed characters, or left out some minor details. Deeper, spoiler filled thoughts to follow under the cut.
Beginning with things I absolutely adored:
Percy: Logan Lerman is Percy Jackson, plain and simple. Everything about him was just right - especially the attitude. I think the moment I was absolutely convinced he was Percy was during the Capture the Flag game when he was like, "You guys take this way too seriously," and then proceded to fall down as he's running away from the Ares guys. OH PERCY YOU ARE RIDICULOUS. ♥ Also, Logan has ridiculous chemistry with like every character, I swear. And by every character, I mean mostly Jake Abel; holy crap, we're about to be invaded Percy/Luke shippers.
Annabeth: I was most concerned with her character's portrayal going in - mostly because Alexandra Daddario was the one member of the main four that I hadn't seen act and, duh, Annabeth's my girl - but I ended up really liking how she turned out. She was great in her fight scenes - I was worried she wouldn't be doing much after the initial beating-Percy-up spree - but her taking on Luke at the end was pure win. The scene that sold it was when she and Grover told Percy to STFU and that they were coming on the quest whether he liked it or not; I thought she just hit all the right notes for Annabeth's character there.
Percy/Annabeth moments: Do I even need to explain this one? There were so many and I just couldn't stop grinning from the moment Percy was introduced to her. AND THE ENDING WITH THEM. SO EFFING CUTE. And the fight scenes? TOTALLY HOT.
Grover: GROVER GROVER GROVER. ♥ I'll straight out admit it; Grover is probably my least favorite character next to Tyson in the books, but holy crap did I love what they did to him in the movie. Although the "I'M YOUR PROTECTOR PERCY" crap got old after, like, the fifth time he said it, at least they made him competent at his job and into a slightly more interesting character than book!Grover. Plus, he had all the best lines and was actually funny.
Luke: Jake Abel was pretty much perfect, the end. I wish there would've been more scenes with him though, but alas, it was not meant to be.
Medusa scene: THIS SCENE, I HAVE NO WORDS FOR HOW EXACTLY AWESOME IT WAS. BUT IT JUST WAS. It was probably my favorite monsterbattle out of the entire quest just because they did the reveal really really well. Also, I was just ridiculously excited that they kept Grover's, "Hey, that looks like Uncle Ferdinand..." scene in.
Lotus Casino scene: It's basically a "demigods get high by eating lotus cakes and almost fuck away their quest" scene set to Lady Gaga music. Why wouldn't that be awesome?
And now for the stuff that I wasn't particularly pleased with:
Lack of backstory/plot and character development: This is really what bugged me most overall; I'm cool with character and plot changes if they're well explained, but some of the stuff just wasn't. I wish we'd gotten more time with Percy and Sally before going to Camp Half-Blood and that we would've spent more time there once we'd gotten there so the camp dynamics would've been established better. I did like what I saw of the camp though - no volcano wall, but those cool ass bridges in the trees made up for it. Did not like that Percy being the son of the Big Three was not a BIG FUCKING DEAL like it was in the books, and that there was little reveal for it. Also, Luke's character was barely developed, which is a problem considering, you know, he's the series villain.
I feel like a lot of interesting stuff in terms of backstory ended up on the cutting room floor, which was unfortunate because the movie could've been a couple minutes longer. The beginning seemed especially rushed and choppy, and I really didn't get into it until we got to Camp Half-Blood. It also didn't help that I had SPOILED MYSELF SILLY for this movie either.
Lack of awesomesauce Olympians: Again, disappointed that the gods had maybe a total of five minutes screentime altogether...okay, maybe I was more or less disappointed that Sean Bean had like five minutes on screen, whatever. I'm a selfish fangirl. Persephone and Hades more than made up for that, but again, there was some stuff from the promos that didn't end up in the final version that I would've liked to see from them.
"You can't see your children!" rule: I was OK with this law of Zeus's until it was revealed that it was because of Poseidon's relationship with Percy and Sally that he started the smackdown on Olympian parent/kid relationships. I would've been fine with it if it was an ancient rule or something (I actually liked the idea when Luke was all being Grumpy McBitter about it), but it just doesn't make sense that with the thousands of kids the gods have had over the last couple of millenia, that Poseidon would be the first and only one that would get super attached to them like that. It's entirely possible, of course, considering the way Poseidon talked about Sally in the books. I actually think this would make a really good discussion for fandom because I think we can think of some good reasons for it.
I mean, all-in-all, it's not a terrible movie - it's a lot of fun and the world is set up wonderfully. If you're a book fan, it helps to check any and all expectations at the door before you go in because you'll enjoy it a lot more if you don't cling passionately to the canon material. If you haven't read the books, the movie is just a taste of the world of Percy Jackson and the books, as always, are a lot better. One of the girls who went with me who hadn't read the books - didn't even know what the books were about - said that she enjoyed the movie a lot more than she thought she would and that she liked it better than Harry Potter. So there you go. ;)
And mostly? I'm just hoping that people will see the movie, be interested enough by it to pick up the original books, and then come play in the fandom. I want more fan fic, dammit! ;)
mysticfushia, da_widget, and a couple of other friends. We were probably the oldest non-parents in the theatre, which was awkward for like .5 seconds. It'll probably come as no surprise, but I loved this ridiculous movie. Yeah, the plot was nothing like the book and there was some other issues with it, but overall? It captured the feeling and the spirit of the books and characters, and I think at the end of the day that's what matters more than the fact that they changed the quest around, added/removed characters, or left out some minor details. Deeper, spoiler filled thoughts to follow under the cut.
Beginning with things I absolutely adored:
Percy: Logan Lerman is Percy Jackson, plain and simple. Everything about him was just right - especially the attitude. I think the moment I was absolutely convinced he was Percy was during the Capture the Flag game when he was like, "You guys take this way too seriously," and then proceded to fall down as he's running away from the Ares guys. OH PERCY YOU ARE RIDICULOUS. ♥ Also, Logan has ridiculous chemistry with like every character, I swear. And by every character, I mean mostly Jake Abel; holy crap, we're about to be invaded Percy/Luke shippers.
Annabeth: I was most concerned with her character's portrayal going in - mostly because Alexandra Daddario was the one member of the main four that I hadn't seen act and, duh, Annabeth's my girl - but I ended up really liking how she turned out. She was great in her fight scenes - I was worried she wouldn't be doing much after the initial beating-Percy-up spree - but her taking on Luke at the end was pure win. The scene that sold it was when she and Grover told Percy to STFU and that they were coming on the quest whether he liked it or not; I thought she just hit all the right notes for Annabeth's character there.
Percy/Annabeth moments: Do I even need to explain this one? There were so many and I just couldn't stop grinning from the moment Percy was introduced to her. AND THE ENDING WITH THEM. SO EFFING CUTE. And the fight scenes? TOTALLY HOT.
Grover: GROVER GROVER GROVER. ♥ I'll straight out admit it; Grover is probably my least favorite character next to Tyson in the books, but holy crap did I love what they did to him in the movie. Although the "I'M YOUR PROTECTOR PERCY" crap got old after, like, the fifth time he said it, at least they made him competent at his job and into a slightly more interesting character than book!Grover. Plus, he had all the best lines and was actually funny.
Luke: Jake Abel was pretty much perfect, the end. I wish there would've been more scenes with him though, but alas, it was not meant to be.
Medusa scene: THIS SCENE, I HAVE NO WORDS FOR HOW EXACTLY AWESOME IT WAS. BUT IT JUST WAS. It was probably my favorite monsterbattle out of the entire quest just because they did the reveal really really well. Also, I was just ridiculously excited that they kept Grover's, "Hey, that looks like Uncle Ferdinand..." scene in.
Lotus Casino scene: It's basically a "demigods get high by eating lotus cakes and almost fuck away their quest" scene set to Lady Gaga music. Why wouldn't that be awesome?
And now for the stuff that I wasn't particularly pleased with:
Lack of backstory/plot and character development: This is really what bugged me most overall; I'm cool with character and plot changes if they're well explained, but some of the stuff just wasn't. I wish we'd gotten more time with Percy and Sally before going to Camp Half-Blood and that we would've spent more time there once we'd gotten there so the camp dynamics would've been established better. I did like what I saw of the camp though - no volcano wall, but those cool ass bridges in the trees made up for it. Did not like that Percy being the son of the Big Three was not a BIG FUCKING DEAL like it was in the books, and that there was little reveal for it. Also, Luke's character was barely developed, which is a problem considering, you know, he's the series villain.
I feel like a lot of interesting stuff in terms of backstory ended up on the cutting room floor, which was unfortunate because the movie could've been a couple minutes longer. The beginning seemed especially rushed and choppy, and I really didn't get into it until we got to Camp Half-Blood. It also didn't help that I had SPOILED MYSELF SILLY for this movie either.
Lack of awesomesauce Olympians: Again, disappointed that the gods had maybe a total of five minutes screentime altogether...okay, maybe I was more or less disappointed that Sean Bean had like five minutes on screen, whatever. I'm a selfish fangirl. Persephone and Hades more than made up for that, but again, there was some stuff from the promos that didn't end up in the final version that I would've liked to see from them.
"You can't see your children!" rule: I was OK with this law of Zeus's until it was revealed that it was because of Poseidon's relationship with Percy and Sally that he started the smackdown on Olympian parent/kid relationships. I would've been fine with it if it was an ancient rule or something (I actually liked the idea when Luke was all being Grumpy McBitter about it), but it just doesn't make sense that with the thousands of kids the gods have had over the last couple of millenia, that Poseidon would be the first and only one that would get super attached to them like that. It's entirely possible, of course, considering the way Poseidon talked about Sally in the books. I actually think this would make a really good discussion for fandom because I think we can think of some good reasons for it.
I mean, all-in-all, it's not a terrible movie - it's a lot of fun and the world is set up wonderfully. If you're a book fan, it helps to check any and all expectations at the door before you go in because you'll enjoy it a lot more if you don't cling passionately to the canon material. If you haven't read the books, the movie is just a taste of the world of Percy Jackson and the books, as always, are a lot better. One of the girls who went with me who hadn't read the books - didn't even know what the books were about - said that she enjoyed the movie a lot more than she thought she would and that she liked it better than Harry Potter. So there you go. ;)
And mostly? I'm just hoping that people will see the movie, be interested enough by it to pick up the original books, and then come play in the fandom. I want more fan fic, dammit! ;)
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Date: 2010-02-13 07:40 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-02-13 07:56 am (UTC)That was pretty much what I was thinking. The first time he was like, "I have a plan, guise!" I just sat there and thought, "In what alternate universe does Percy Jackson come up with plans?"
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Date: 2010-02-14 04:55 am (UTC)But Logan Lerman and Lotus Casino made up for that.
(Speaking of Logan Lerman, his Cabin was awesome, but there were no walls. Erm, I think I'll go watch him when he sleeos.)
And you know that one line? When Poseidon went "I'll be in you dreams?" My friend (and, sadly, I) could not stop laughing at that.
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Date: 2010-02-13 08:02 am (UTC)The lack of dramatic moments was my only real complaint about it. I liked Annabeth's "Hi, mom." but there should have been so much more after all that. All the demi-gods being bitter in varying degress could have been excellent material.
And the scene after Percy woke up in camp could have lasted longer as he sort of adjusted to what he was seeing.
I know it's a lot harder to get character moments in movies where books can have whole pages for internal monologues but Chris/Titley should have done better on that front if they were going to make their own relationship cues for the movie.
If this movie gets a sequel, they really need to get a better screenwriter.
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Date: 2010-02-13 08:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-13 08:51 am (UTC)But still, yeah, it was an awesome movie (TOO EXCITED TO SEE LOGAN ON TUESDAY BTW), but I'm still fairly disappointed with all the stuff they left out D: Even if PJO might bomb like all the other failed books-to-film HP-replacements. And oh, Seaweed Brain.. My Percabeth heart twinged just a little.
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Date: 2010-02-13 09:34 pm (UTC)Grover/Brandon and Logan/Percy were my favorite parts though(:
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Date: 2010-02-13 01:33 pm (UTC)♥ Also, Logan has ridiculous chemistry with like every character, I swear. And by every character, I mean mostly Jake Abel; holy crap, we're about to be invaded Percy/Luke shippers.
This would so not be a problem.
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Date: 2010-02-13 06:47 pm (UTC)I think you'll enjoy it. It's a fun, silly movie, regardless of whether or not you've read the books.
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Date: 2010-02-13 02:48 pm (UTC)Just had to say that we pretty much wrote the exact same reaction/review post. All the way down to Grover's 'I'M YOUR PROTECTOR'-ing forever.
I love the canon hardcore, but put it aside, and the movie is actually a pretty enjoyable adaptation based on the book.
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Date: 2010-02-13 07:08 pm (UTC)But I agree, it was an enjoyable adaptation. As long as you can keep the two universes' canon seperate, I really think you can enjoy both!
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Date: 2010-02-13 06:41 pm (UTC)You've convinced me! I thought the movie was pretty epic, so now I really want to start reading the books. Haha you can brag to all your fanfic buddies about how you converted someone! Ye gods, that reminds me! I need to see who won my fanfic challenge!
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Date: 2010-02-13 06:44 pm (UTC)Good luck with the fan fic challenge! I hope you did well!
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Date: 2010-02-13 08:15 pm (UTC)And movie!Grover! SO MUCH WIN. I LOVED HIM.<3
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Date: 2010-02-13 10:59 pm (UTC)I'm going to see it with my younger sister, who is halfway through the first book and has been for weeks, so I gave up on the idea that she would finish prior to the movie coming out. I just hope she'll still be motivated to finish reading the book after the movie. I'm not worried about spoilers, because she's that unbelievably obnoxious person who calls the end of a movie/book 2 minutes/pages in and is always right. (Seeing The Sixth Sense for the first time with her was one of the more frustrating moments of my life.) She has already guessed the "Luke is evil" thing, so...yeah. And I agree about wanting more (good) fanfic, but as a beginning fanfic writer, I have to say it's hard to get yourself out there. I've gotten pretty limited feedback on what I've done, so it's hard to tell how to not be ungood!
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Date: 2010-02-16 03:25 am (UTC)Also, I hated that stupid law, because it takes away what I think is one of the most interesting aspects of the book--that, by and large, the gods ARE crappy parents, and they are crappy parents voluntarily. When Luke says the gods don't care about their kids, he really isn't objectively wrong, and I feel like that issue is the one that makes not only Luke's turn but also the turn of other demigods understandable and even reasonable. Even Poseidon, who is one of the most decent parents, is really not a great father to Percy for most of the series, and Percy realizes that and deals with it in his own way.
The casino scene was awesome, though. Okay, I seriously need to stop stalking your journal now. I am probably frightening you.
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Date: 2010-02-14 01:58 am (UTC)except for when he got in the way of Percy/Annabethbut his one-liners -both the cheesy and not-so - really made his character for me. AND HE KISSED MEDUSA'S HEAD.All the Percy/Annabeth moments totally made up for him not having to learn Ancient Greek from her. And we all knew Luke was secretly a gamer, right? right. ♥
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Date: 2010-02-14 05:33 am (UTC)I also think a lot more emphasis should have been put on the cabins. I mean, they were really cool but it would've been cooler if it was made clear that there was a cabin for each god, and an actual scene where you could see all the cabins and see there differences.
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Date: 2010-02-16 03:08 am (UTC)now...to read your review.
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Date: 2010-02-16 03:12 am (UTC)well, Chiron did say that the Big Three rarely have kids (and given Zeus' track record, that's an accomplishment)...and the nymphs (at least) kept hitting on Percy.
I thought the "can't see your kids" rule was because of the Prophecy.
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-16 04:16 am (UTC)>all really shitty parents.
most are, yeah.
but the attentiveness of Poseidon, combined with the Zeus-vs-Poseidon rivalry, topped off with the Prophecy...might've been the straw to make the decision.
(I killed that figure of speech dead, didn't I?)
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:09 am (UTC)... however, I preferred how the movie dealt with Gabe :)
(At the end of the movie, when Percy is watching Annabeth fight, one of the girls in the row behind me said aloud "He's so cute." Everybody cracked up.
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:12 am (UTC)And Percy is cute, lol.
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:17 am (UTC)Oh, and did you notice the (at least) 2 SG alumni on the pantheon?
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:19 am (UTC)Rachel Luttrell's husband was one of the sons of Ares in the Capture the Flag fight scene, though. ;)
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:27 am (UTC)Oh, something else that kinda bugged me was Pierce Brosnan was totally OTT. Oh well, at least he didn't sing...
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:28 am (UTC)My crossover plot bunnies are ALL over this one.
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Date: 2010-02-16 04:29 am (UTC)Just checked -- yup, filmed in Vancouver!
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Date: 2010-02-16 07:10 pm (UTC)All of us saw the drinking fountain, and were like "DUDE! WATER!"
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Date: 2010-02-17 05:40 am (UTC)Re: asjfa'
Date: 2010-04-06 08:34 am (UTC)The only big god/children rule I remember in the book is the pact that Zeus, Hades and Poseidon made. They swore on the the River Styx that they would no longer father any children because children of the Big Three have the potential to become too powerful.
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Date: 2010-04-06 08:30 am (UTC)Watching the actual movie wasn't very high on my to-do list, but I got a tweet from a friend saying she watched it and liked it, and I had my cousin with me for the weekend so I thought... What the hell. She agreed to go see it with me the next day.
I enjoyed the movie as a movie. In retrospect, I'm very glad I didn't walk into the theater with expectations. If I'd been looking forward to the movie because I loved the book, I would have cried. In fact, when I finally did pick up the first book after seeing the movie (another Twitter recommendation) I kept checking the cover to be sure I had the right book, haha.
Watching the movie is a lot harder now that I've read the series. Although I can still appreciate the humor Brandon Jackson (Jackson lol) brought to Grover's character. A few of his lines actually had me lol'ing in my seat.
"Those are working class Americans!"
"Thanks for telling me, man. You're burning money, we're in a recession!"
And Logan's acting was ace. Not to mention he's effing adorable. I can't imagine Annabeth as Alexandra no matter how hard I try, but the Percy I have in my head is a combination of Logan and my own creation. Oh, and did I mention the guy who plays Luke is like... the prettiest boy I've ever seen? Mhmm. :)
I still love the Lotus Hotel scene, even if it wasn't much like the scene in the book. I agree-- demigods getting high off of little pink flowers and dancing to Lady GaGa in a totally bitchin' casino? What's not to love about that?
(Did you notice a bit in the previews that wasn't in the movie? I'm not talking about the whole walking-up-to-the-empire-state-building part. There was an explosion or something outside of the diner. I can't think of what that could have been.)
Well, it's 4:30 am so I'm gonna wrap this up. Basically, I liked the movie before I read the books, now I don't know why they even bothered making a movie. I'm pretty sure I'm still gonna buy it when it comes out though, because like you said, it's fun if you don't cling passionately to the canon material.
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Date: 2010-04-06 08:41 pm (UTC)Logan Lerman did a phenomenal job but i hated how him (and a few of the other cast members) did a lot of lines like "Oh my god what should we do?!" They were really flat but thats probably me just being picky.
It was pretty kool. Where do you get your icons?!